Well Water Help

[Gary Slusser]

..., yes, the pellets erode; I have no problem with how that method is applied. I was questioning the term “straight erosion” which I can find nowhere in a Google search as concerns to which you are referring. But look for “Pellet Feeder” and presto—there’s your unit. Strange how that works out, isn’t it.

The OP said "straight erosion", he explained to you that I didn't say that but here you misrepresent it that I said it.... Your reason for that is obvious.

But you continuously say it is not a pellet feeder when, in fact, that is what it is and what the manufacturers of the product call it (note the sites I referred). So where’s the misunderstanding, Gary?

Andy, again, it feeds chlorinated water, not pellets, a pellet dropper feeds pellets. None of the links that you put up are from the manufacturer. I buy directly from the manufacturer. When you mistakenly called it a pellet dropper, the OP, Darrin Ginther, corrected you, and here you are again with more misrepresentation....

..., the accelerator that we use can easily be removed and cleaned by the owner if clogging becomes a problem without a great effort or re-plumbing. A by-pass can be set so that even if you remove it to clean, you are not without treated water. Also, since it is clear, you can monitor it and make observations. I agree with one of my distributors (Nelsen) on this point, as they fully understand what is sellable and what causes callbacks.

Andy Christensen, CWS-II

See, again, you don't have personal experience so you must rely on a sales rep at your supplier that repeats to you what some guys that obviously didn't do it right complains about. And then you repeat the gossip with no first hand experience of your own...

On the other hand I buy from the manufacturer and have been selling his inline erosion pellet chlorinator and mixing tank for about ten years. BTW, with a special version of your "accelerator" in it; why do you call it that when no one else does?

I have never had or heard of any blockage, and OMG the tank doesn't have a bypass, do you think I should add one? That's with roughly 60 sold just online in the last 5 years and some with very high iron. Like I said, you selling for a Kinetico dealer is limiting your experience. For 20 years I have been hearing MANY guys with solution feeders say they absolutely hate them; most don't get them to work.

[Andy CWS]

This forum is not the place to discuss another forum's quotes. If you want to discuss this further go back to that forum. I'll meet you there. Thank you.

[John J CWS VI CI]

Well Water Help

The GreensandPlus media HAS to be regenerated or the unit will NOT work.

http://www.inversand.com/product.htm

Weshope,

There was no sulfur in the tests, but the water smells. Is it both the hot and cold, or just the hot? If only the hot, the anode in the water heater may be the problem. If both cold and hot, I would first try disinfecting the piping before investing money on equipment you may not need ... especially for a cabin which I assume is a vacation home.

If that takes care of the smell, then you could simply get a softener for hardness, iron and manganese. An RO will address the TDS and nitrate for the drinking water ... but this all depends on the use the cabin will receive.

John J CWS VI CI

[Andy CWS]

Greensand+ does not require regeneration with potassium permanganate, chlorine or anything else, just backwashing.

Hi John, nice to have you on board. Thanks for your input.

Although GreensandPlus (tm) is an improvement over standard greensand, it still needs a regenerant to function properly. Simply backwashing it is a big mistake. Sediment filters and some pH neutralizers are among the types of filters that 'just backwash'.

Since it works as a catalyst and 'holds' what it converts from the water, simply backwashing will do little to release those contaminants. Eventually, the media will die and the unit will become useless.

It seems your advice on the odors is also very sound. Why not try the simple, inexpensive way first?

Andy Christensen, CWS-II

[Gary Slusser]

The GreensandPlus media HAS to be regenerated or the unit will NOT work.

http://www.inversand.com/product.htm

John J CWS VI CI

John I guess Andy has recruited you to help him out on various forums, he may regret that when people see your troubling shooting abilities compared to his. Anyway, I can't find where at the link you provided that it says GreensandPlus must be continuously regenerated in a POE residential application. I had a spec sheet on various similar products showing a comparison between Greensand+, Filox, Filox-R, Pyrolox and greensand IIRC, maybe it was something else, and although I thought I saved it in pdf format I can not find it and have looked twice. It said regeneration was not required.

[John J CWS VI CI]

Gary,

Go to the link I sent and read the FAQ. You can use Pot Perm, Chlorine or any oxidant, but you do need to regenerate with something, either intermittantly or continously. In addition, regeneration is required before placing in-service as the media is not shipped in a regenerated form.

??? Why would anyone regret anyone elses expertise or experience? I learn something on these forums everyday. Everyone of us knows something, no one knows it all. That's why we share.

Weshope,

What I said before about the cabin ... if it only for intermittant usage, you may be satisfied in only removing the bad smell. That's why I would start out simple and see if you can control the odor. From there, you can take the next step. If you use the water for washing clothes, then certainly the iron, hardness and manganese has to go. If you want to drink it, then the RO would be a good idea.
Sorry if we got off-topic with you.

John

[Gary Slusser]

After a long discussion of all this yesterday with others not reading what the manufacturer says in FAQs, and although I'm still waiting for another copy of the spec sheet I must have deleted, and I haven't heard of a problem from my one customer just backwashing it. I will stay with my previous statement.

[Andy CWS]

John,

I was able to get that info very easily and it was clear and easy to understand.

Thanks for your help.

Andy Christensen, CWS-II