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  • #16
    Originally posted by NH Master
    Exactly what part of anything I posted is anti DIY? or "I'm better than you"?
    I wasn't getting the impression you were conveying THAT message at all. In fact I have seen where you have posted supporting those who wanted to do things themselves. Not sure where Gary got that impression.

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    • #17
      He gets it from a post I started on another forum, in the "professionals only" area (where since he ain't licensed, he should not even be) that in a nut shell said that a good lot of the advice given by professionals was hurting the trade. He took it to heart because his entire living is based on selling to diy'ers online. For the hundredth time though, " I have nothing against online sales " If I had the time, I would probably set up some sort of online store myself. What I have always objected to is selling online on forums that prohibit it or sneaking around the back way and PM'ing every poster to get them on your sales site. I also object to unlicensed people giving out dangerous advice or advice that circumvents plumbing codes. I try very hard not to give folks advice that could get them in trouble, or advice that might lead them to believe they are capable of doing something that they are not. DIY is not going away. Pretty much every homeowner that ever fixed a door knob or replaced a faucet washer is a DIY'er. I am a DIY'er. I don't pay tradesmen to do jobs I can do myself unless I don't have the time or desire to do so. (house painting comes to mind) But, plumbing and electrical are trades that require a good bit of training, understanding and skill. There are state and local codes in place to insure the health and safety of not only the homeowner but the entire neighborhood and beyond. Those codes are in place to keep folks from doing stupid things that may endanger everyone's well being. Modern sanitary plumbing practices are the number one reason why people rarely die from cholera, diphtheria and a host of other maladies that regularly killed thousands in the past.
      Last edited by NH Master; 12-28-2009, 07:58 PM.

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      • #18
        The behavior of a professional often relfects in their words as well as their actions.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Andy CWS
          The behavior of a professional often relfects in their words as well as their actions.
          You bet!!! Why would anyone buy from Gary?? All I know about him is he likes to dispute everything.
          Trying to help people NOT get cheated ON THE NET.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NH Master
            He gets it from a post I started on another forum, in the "professionals only" area (where since he ain't licensed, he should not even be) that in a nut shell said that a good lot of the advice given by professionals was hurting the trade. He took it to heart because his entire living is based on selling to diy'ers online. For the hundredth time though, " I have nothing against online sales " If I had the time, I would probably set up some sort of online store myself. What I have always objected to is selling online on forums that prohibit it or sneaking around the back way and PM'ing every poster to get them on your sales site.
            I just love how you want to run forums you don't own but don't bother to put one up yourself where you can run it any way you want to but whine because forum owners won't cater to your whims.

            I have never PMed anyone anywhere, especially to get them to go to my site or sell them anything. I DON'T HAVE TO, every forum has a Profile and members can access it and click a link to my site.

            I can tell you that if you tried to sell online, you probably would fail very quickly.

            Let me ask you what business is it of yours if someone buys something from me because of my posts on forums? Why are you so much against that? IMO it is because you want to stop ME as revenge for my disagreeing with you about whatever, like in the Pros thread you mention above. Better people than you have attempted that and my volume of business increases, so thanks for the help you provide me.

            BTW, as I've told you a hundred times by now, I do not have to have a license, there is no license I could get if I wanted one! Yet you go on about me not being licensed! I guess you don't know how that makes you look but others see it as dumb; or you being stuck on stupid.

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            • #21
              Again my friend you only ever hear (or comprehend) what you want to hear. So read this slowly and carefully

              I do not care if you sell on the internet. Lot's of folks sell on the internet. My wife sells on the internet.


              I do not care if you are licensed. Since you don't do install or service work, you don't need to be licensed. Besides which, since you live a nomadic lifestyle ( and of that I am jealous ) a license would do you not good anyway. Problem is you take everything anyone posts as a personal attack on you.

              There are no black helicopters following you around and the only reason I am here is because I was invited here.

              I have no desire to run a forum of any kind, but when a forum has rules, I expect everyone to follow them. The particular venue we are talking about has those rules also. That you and the site owner choose to ignore them is his and your business, but ignoring them sets a pretty bad tone don't you think?

              So let's put an end to this and get on with what a forum is supposed to be for.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by NH Master
                Again my friend you only ever hear (or comprehend) what you want to hear. So read this slowly and carefully

                I do not care if you sell on the internet. Lot's of folks sell on the internet. My wife sells on the internet.


                I do not care if you are licensed. Since you don't do install or service work, you don't need to be licensed. Besides which, since you live a nomadic lifestyle ( and of that I am jealous ) a license would do you not good anyway. Problem is you take everything anyone posts as a personal attack on you.

                There are no black helicopters following you around and the only reason I am here is because I was invited here.

                I have no desire to run a forum of any kind, but when a forum has rules, I expect everyone to follow them. The particular venue we are talking about has those rules also. That you and the site owner choose to ignore them is his and your business, but ignoring them sets a pretty bad tone don't you think?

                So let's put an end to this and get on with what a forum is supposed to be for.
                The people that invited you are the same type as you, anti online sales and anti Gary; for their own reasons that you have bought into. BTW, you said you are divorced, now you have a wife?

                I didn't have to have a license to sell, install or service when I was a local dealer either, yet you will go on about that seemingly forever. Actually there are very few states that require any license for installation of water treatment equipment.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gary Slusser
                  The people that invited you are the same type as you, anti online sales and anti Gary; for their own reasons that you have bought into. BTW, you said you are divorced, now you have a wife?

                  Gary, why would anyone be anti you?

                  What makes you think you know who invited me here, or are you still looking for those black helicopters? (btw, I hear a tin foil helmet sometimes works)

                  Yes divorced and re-married. It does happen you know.




                  I didn't have to have a license to sell, install or service when I was a local dealer either, yet you will go on about that seemingly forever. Actually there are very few states that require any license for installation of water treatment equipment.
                  No, you go on about it seemingly forever. Again, you fail to read and comprehend. It's a fairly common malady usually connected to a childhood learning disability.

                  I'm not sure how many states require filter and pump license but I do know that most new England states do. You can google it if you want to.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by NH Master
                    No, you go on about it seemingly forever. Again, you fail to read and comprehend. It's a fairly common malady usually connected to a childhood learning disability.

                    I'm not sure how many states require filter and pump license but I do know that most new England states do. You can google it if you want to.
                    Michigan does not.
                    Trying to help people NOT get cheated ON THE NET.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by NH Master
                      I'm not sure how many states require filter and pump license but I do know that most new England states do. You can google it if you want to.
                      Yeah most of my customers from NE, they don't like the heavy handed government up there in most of NE. Same for my customers from MI.

                      BTW, THANK YOU!! I sold two softeners today where both guys mentioned you and driller1 by name.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Gary Slusser
                        Yeah most of my customers from NE, they don't like the heavy handed government up there in most of NE. Same for my customers from MI.

                        BTW, THANK YOU!! I sold two softeners today where both guys mentioned you and driller1 by name.
                        And I just posted you REAL motor home on Terry's forum.
                        Trying to help people NOT get cheated ON THE NET.

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                        • #27
                          well congratulations. Do we get a cut?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Gary Slusser
                            Yeah most of my customers from NE, they don't like the heavy handed government up there in most of NE. Same for my customers from MI.

                            BTW, THANK YOU!! I sold two softeners today where both guys mentioned you and driller1 by name.

                            Now see, there you go, not reading or comprehending again. I said most of the New England states do require a license.

                            And as for your two sales, good for you.

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                            • #29
                              LOL The motor home posts were there a few hours. By my PM's I would say a lot of people saw it.

                              I have everything and can re post. Poxy severs are great!!!
                              Trying to help people NOT get cheated ON THE NET.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by NH Master
                                well congratulations. Do we get a cut?
                                LOL I could care less how many softeners Gary sells. Just when it is to fix a well construction problem do I question it.

                                I rather like his wife!!!
                                Trying to help people NOT get cheated ON THE NET.

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