New site user needs service help!

[NH Master]

Again, please post some proof, some real numbers. Until then it's just your opinion.

As for the secret side of the Clack valve. It's online in Clacks web site. There aint nothing secret about it. We give that information to anyone that buys Clack from us.

[Gary Slusser]

Again, please post some proof, some real numbers. Until then it's just your opinion.

As for the secret side of the Clack valve. It's online in Clacks web site. There aint nothing secret about it. We give that information to anyone that buys Clack from us.

It's more than my opinion, it is my experience and it's obvious that you don't have any outside your local area.

Yes the instructions are there but the facts are that my competitors don't tell their customers it is there and they do not tell their customers how to produce the data to be used to program their control valve and neither does Clack's manual. IMO they don't know how to develop the data, and you are questionable because I never see you helping any posters with questions and I could be wrong and it's because of your anti DIYer stance instead.

[NH Master]

Well, what can I say that has not all been said before. If it makes you happy to believe the things you do than by all means, keep on keeping on.

[Andy CWS]

Thank you for your help! I will continue to try to get someone there. I may have to do it myself....
I will let you know. Have a good holiday weekend!!
Shelly

Shelly,

I hope we can hear from you again.

Andy Christensen, CWS-II

[Gary Slusser]

You said you paid a "finder's fee".

I would never take money for the names of my customers.

You obviously do not know what a finders fee is and are playing your normal picky game of things I say.

A finders fee is paid when someone, like a plumber, directs his customer to another person and the customer of that first person buys something from the other person. It is paid after the fact.

I paid the plumber a previously agreed percentage of the purchase price amount IF his customer bought equipment from me. There was no finders fee IF the plumber bought the equipment from me after I sized it for him, he paid my cost plus $100 and charged his customer whatever he charged for the equipment with or without installation.

There was no list of names involved, offered, sold or paid for. So as usual, you're harassment type assumptions are incorrect.

[Driller1]

You obviously do not know what a finders fee is and are playing your normal picky game of things I say.

A finders fee is paid when someone, like a plumber, directs his customer to another person and the customer of that first person buys something from the other person. It is paid after the fact.

I paid the plumber a previously agreed percentage of the purchase price amount IF his customer bought equipment from me. There was no finders fee IF the plumber bought the equipment from me after I sized it for him, he paid my cost plus $100 and charged his customer whatever he charged for the equipment with or without installation.

There was no list of names involved, offered, sold or paid for. So as usual, you're harassment type assumptions are incorrect.

Oh, I know what it is. And I find it disgusting.

They sold names to you. Money changed hands. No way to spin that one.

[NH Master]

We had a similar arraingement with Roto-Rooter before I found out they were stiffing us and then we went into drain cleaning ourselves.

[Driller1]

We had a similar arraingement with Roto-Rooter before I found out they were stiffing us and then we went into drain cleaning ourselves.

I am not surprised. Any person willing to sell their customers or pay for customers, IMO will take advantage anyway they can.

Glad to hear you got away from them.

The mobile home places around here tried that with us. They wanted to give us jobs for a "fee".

I explained to them we don't need a pimp.

[Gary Slusser]

Oh, I know what it is. And I find it disgusting.

They sold names to you. Money changed hands. No way to spin that one.

No names were sold. The plumber referred his interested customer to me and the customer called me voluntarily and if he bought from me I paid the plumber a fee out of my advertised price. The customer didn't pay a penny more, I made less money on the sale and the plumber was rewarded for his involvement and in most cases he was paid by his customer to install the equipment. I am the only one that could be said to have suffered any loss, but I saw it as a sale I would not have made otherwise and was happy for and the customer and plumber were happy. It seems only you are unhappy about it!!!!!!

[Andy CWS]

Thank you Shelly. You are right about the thread's direction and your relunctancy to come back on. We have often suffered these loses as you described.

I will glad to work with you privately.

Thank you,
Andy Christensen CWS-II
Moderator

[Driller1]

No names were sold. The plumber referred his interested customer to me and the customer called me voluntarily and if he bought from me I paid the plumber a fee out of my advertised price. The customer didn't pay a penny more, I made less money on the sale and the plumber was rewarded for his involvement and in most cases he was paid by his customer to install the equipment. I am the only one that could be said to have suffered any loss, but I saw it as a sale I would not have made otherwise and was happy for and the customer and plumber were happy. It seems only you are unhappy about it!!!!!!

Then what was the "fee" for??? Money changed hands, IMO very easy to tell what happened.

[Akpsdvan]

Could we get back to the starting problem of this thread?

Or is that just to hard for the Kids of this site?